uhn...
this issue is complicated.
well, I am one that only collects flags for fun, I don't have a site to keep track of my visitors. Most of my flags came from internet foruns, where there is no way to hide the image because it only accepts bbcode. And surprinsingly I receive some messages asking me about the flags and how they can get one like mine, so I totally gets Jeremy point. However, I think blocking one or two websites isn't the right choice, despite the number of viewers. I mean, a page with high traffic means more publicity So in my opinion, a way of preventing the hiding of the FC advertisement willl be more afficient, or desencouraging massive spans. For example. for free users, maploco allows you to watch your statistics only if your map has less than 10k viewers daily. So I think this is an interesting approach, so maps with high traffic will have to buy a pro account.

so do i

@ Alex.....thats a great comment when you have a full counter.  What about new users?

yes i agree Alex.......the only way to get a set is either via proxy, or via comments........
so if you take those two aspects away....what are you left with?
as ive mentioned before, it doesnt really affect me....im missing about 10 flags.....which i will probably never get.....but new users will never get to that level, because of the way things have changed.....and let's be honest, if it wasn't for certain people posting 50 counters there wouldnt even be this problem now.....this only came about when those lot starting posting a silly ammount of counters....and you know exactly who i mean........unfortunately now...everyone is made to suffer because of one person or groups greediness......and thats all is it... greed.

Well, I thought I'd better stay away from this, but I simply can't. I'm feeling extremely sorry for new users (or those who only started collecting flags, instead of just having a boring Flag Counter with 5 hits per day on a site no one visits), cause now, when it's being blocked on sites like Zedge (although I only posted on there a few times to complete my Indonesian regional collection) they won't be able to have a complete collection.

Jeremy, you said that those counters on Zedge didn't have your logo pictured. You're right, they didn't, cause they were PRO counters (well, most of them). And since Pro counters are not obligated to include the FC logo, we've done nothing wrong. My counters, for example, were not hidden, they were clearly showing pageviews. Rod's were showing flags, and so on and so on. You CAN'T hide your counters on Zedge, cause it allows only a BBCode.

There's only one thing I don't agree with - someone posting 50 different counters in one comment everywhere on the internet. THAT slows down servers and THAT should be banned. And it's still not. People who post a few comments with THEIR OWN counters to get some rare flags have to suffer because of some dipshit that posts 50 counters in one post? Unfair, isn't it?

With these new rules you'll start losing your customers VERY quickly. I'm sure 99% of Pro users will cancel their subscription (me included), cause they wouldn't want to pay for something that they can't make use of. And please, don't start with 'a site you own or operate'... There is maybe a 1% of FC users that actually DO use their Flagcounters only on sites they own and operate. The majority of FC users use their Flagcounters to have fun from collecting flags.

I don't have anything against your decisions, you are the admin, but you're goona regret them sooner or later. Losing customers means losing business.

Last edited by holland25 (May 15, 2012 7:57 pm)